Tuesday, 23 December 2008

Pope urges defence of heterosexuality

Ok Boys, Girls and those of mixed or no gender, before I go any further I make no appologies for anything that "I" say in this post. Those of you who are regulars to Nosceres World will know that I like to slam those in power or authority when they speak out of turn or say or do something which I believe is unjust to anyone or anything, and as luck would have it the head of the Catholic church in his Christmas Holy address has done just that.

Speaking in a holiday address to the Curia, the Vatican's central administration, Benedict said yesterday the church viewed the distinction between men and women as central to human nature, and "asks that this order, set down by creation, be respected". The church, he said, "should protect man from the destruction of himself. A sort of ecology of man was needed, he said," adding: "The tropical forests do deserve our protection; but man, as a creature, does not deserve any less." Benedict focused his attack on what he described as "gender" theories, "which lead towards the definitive emancipation of man from creation and the creator".
The Catholic church teaches that while homosexuality is not sinful, homosexual acts are. It opposes gay marriage, and in October a leading Vatican official called homosexuality "a deviation, an irregularity, a wound".
"Source"First of all, how dare he question the validity in Gods eyes of those who are not hetrosexual when the church appears regularly in the media when "His Employees" are charged with child abuse or lude and inapropriate acts against under aged children". I have read the bible and although I can not resite the 10 commandments I dont recall a commandment stating that homosexual acts are a sin, and once again I repeat what I said just up there, "His Employees" are charged with child abuse or lude and inapropriate acts against under aged children", taking the media coverage that the church creates when these acts are uncovered, if anything we need to question the sanctaty of the church if, as the voice of God they can not follow the scriptures them selves, saying homosexual acts are a sin when they are commiting the same homosexual act, but with a minor.

Father Federico Lombardi, a Vatican spokesman, said today that the pope had not wished specifically to attack homosexuality or sex change operations in his speech. "He was speaking more generally about gender theories which overlook the fundamental difference in creation between men and women and focus instead on the role of cultural conditioning," he said.
No he was not this was a direct attack on everyone who is not hetrosexual.

On a different note, it is a well known fact that Pope Benedict XVI was a member of the Nazi party, though he has said he only joined because he feared for his life if he didnt join. Well Mr Benedict I believe that this shows how weak you are. For centuries people have died rather than denounce their beliefs, for gods sake even Jesus did. Yet you join a party known for its views and acts of genecide. Hang on what happened to "Thou shalt not kill"? No its ok, as a member of the church you are charged with protecting your congragation against the evils of the world but it is fine for you to go against what you preach and commit acts of homosexuality and genecide and the like as they are done in the name of God and there for justafied.

Taking all this into account, be you a Boy, a girl, be you hetrosexual, bisexual, gay, of mixed or no gender, be you Christian, Budist, Sikh, Muslim, Jewish, Pagan, Hindu what ever your God or Goddess is called, I want to wish everyone Good luck, good health and good fortune in your future.

Disclaimer: I need to point out that in no way was this post intended to provoke any kind of hatred or animocity against any one person or group. The words in this post are my views and may not be the views of this sites host Wordpress.com.

(Im going to Spellcheck this later as Im having PC troubles)

8 comments:

  1. Hello,

    Thank you for taking the time to comment on the Pope's recent statement. It's clear that you reflected on them, and gave them due consideration.

    I would just respectfully make a few corrections to your comments. Because of the priest sex abuse scandal, you imply that the Pope doesn't have the right to pronounce on the Church's moral teachings regarding homosexuality.

    It's worth pointing out that the sex abuse scandal happened precisely because the priests didn't follow the Church's moral teachings on sexuality, and homosexuality in general. In Boston, the overwhelming majority of the abuse was with teenage boys, which seems to point to homosexual rape more than pedophilia. It seems that many of the priests had same sex attraction, and ignored the Church's moral teachings. Having said that, it's worth repeating that the scandal is abominable, and can't be excused.

    You mention that nowhere in the Ten Commandments does it speak against homosexuality - this is true; but the Catholic faith doesn't hold exclusively to the ten commandments for its moral truths: there is the Bible as a whole, sacred tradition and the teachings of the Pope.

    Finally you say Pope Benedict was a member of the Nazi Party - this is incorrect. He was forced into the Hitler Youth. By the end of the war, the despeate Nazi regime was forcing old men and children into the military. This is what happened to the young Pope. If he had refused induction, him and his entire family would have been murdered.

    I can understand your disagreement with the Pope's moral teachings, but labeling him a NAZI is simply not true.

    Once again, thank you for your time. As a Catholic I appreciate anyone who takes the time to listen to the Holy Father and engage in a civilized discussion.

    Merry Christmas to you!

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  2. Thanks for your comment Conway.
    If I am honest I did not know about the Boston sex abuse scandle, I was refering to the Catholic church in the UK which has not had a scandle so to say but does seem to be in the media`s light regularly regarding this kind of abuse.
    With regard to "Labeling" the Pope a Nazi, no I commented that he wasa member of the Nazi party and questioned his stregnth. I dont know maybe this came to light to cast bad light on him but either way I believe with yesterdays mass he has done this himself now.

    In all, well commented and will put.. Thank you and a happy and healthy holiday to you.

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  3. I have a hard time with the whole position of "Pope" and the fact that he is put on a higher level than any of us. In my opinion, he is just a man and has to fight the same issues and temptations that we do. He is entitled to fail and be wrong because he is "man". I know the Catholic Church has an entirely different position on this.

    Regarding homosexuality, it is also not our place to judge this. We are each accountable for our own actions...at least in my faith. But, I would have to think, if I were standing in judgement, that checking the "heterosexual" box would make me feel a little more comfortable about my chances.

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  4. Homo-schmono... Most of Christianity as we know it was St.Paul's opinion, not teachings of Jesus (maybe he was kicking off about accepted practices in ancient Greece and had a hard time swallowing it [no pun intended]. There is a new covenant..... Love God, Love Fellow Man (as in other humans). Jesus isnt reported as saying, oh and btw, fyi, the old testament rules and laws still apply (like plucking out of eyes, stoning etc). Hard to belive a God would create homosexuality (its not a choice, is a birthright) and then deny that person love, pleasure and a relationship. Homosexuals dont chew on about the sexual practices of hetrosexuals besides, if it werent for hetrosexuals, there would be no homosexuals!

    Why dont people spend their time on more important issues that are affecting the world?

    Peace!

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  5. Hello,

    Thank you for taking the time to comment on the Pope's recent statement. It's clear that you reflected on them, and gave them due consideration.

    I would just respectfully make a few corrections to your comments. Because of the priest sex abuse scandal, you imply that the Pope doesn't have the right to pronounce on the Church's moral teachings regarding homosexuality.

    It's worth pointing out that the sex abuse scandal happened precisely because the priests didn't follow the Church's moral teachings on sexuality, and homosexuality in general. In Boston, the overwhelming majority of the abuse was with teenage boys, which seems to point to homosexual rape more than pedophilia. It seems that many of the priests had same sex attraction, and ignored the Church's moral teachings. Having said that, it's worth repeating that the scandal is abominable, and can't be excused.

    You mention that nowhere in the Ten Commandments does it speak against homosexuality - this is true; but the Catholic faith doesn't hold exclusively to the ten commandments for its moral truths: there is the Bible as a whole, sacred tradition and the teachings of the Pope.

    Finally you say Pope Benedict was a member of the Nazi Party - this is incorrect. He was forced into the Hitler Youth. By the end of the war, the despeate Nazi regime was forcing old men and children into the military. This is what happened to the young Pope. If he had refused induction, him and his entire family would have been murdered.

    I can understand your disagreement with the Pope's moral teachings, but labeling him a NAZI is simply not true.

    Once again, thank you for your time. As a Catholic I appreciate anyone who takes the time to listen to the Holy Father and engage in a civilized discussion.

    Merry Christmas to you!

    ReplyDelete
  6. Thanks for your comment Conway.
    If I am honest I did not know about the Boston sex abuse scandle, I was refering to the Catholic church in the UK which has not had a scandle so to say but does seem to be in the media`s light regularly regarding this kind of abuse.
    With regard to "Labeling" the Pope a Nazi, no I commented that he wasa member of the Nazi party and questioned his stregnth. I dont know maybe this came to light to cast bad light on him but either way I believe with yesterdays mass he has done this himself now.

    In all, well commented and will put.. Thank you and a happy and healthy holiday to you.

    ReplyDelete
  7. I have a hard time with the whole position of "Pope" and the fact that he is put on a higher level than any of us. In my opinion, he is just a man and has to fight the same issues and temptations that we do. He is entitled to fail and be wrong because he is "man". I know the Catholic Church has an entirely different position on this.

    Regarding homosexuality, it is also not our place to judge this. We are each accountable for our own actions...at least in my faith. But, I would have to think, if I were standing in judgement, that checking the "heterosexual" box would make me feel a little more comfortable about my chances.

    ReplyDelete
  8. Homo-schmono... Most of Christianity as we know it was St.Paul's opinion, not teachings of Jesus (maybe he was kicking off about accepted practices in ancient Greece and had a hard time swallowing it [no pun intended]. There is a new covenant..... Love God, Love Fellow Man (as in other humans). Jesus isnt reported as saying, oh and btw, fyi, the old testament rules and laws still apply (like plucking out of eyes, stoning etc). Hard to belive a God would create homosexuality (its not a choice, is a birthright) and then deny that person love, pleasure and a relationship. Homosexuals dont chew on about the sexual practices of hetrosexuals besides, if it werent for hetrosexuals, there would be no homosexuals!

    Why dont people spend their time on more important issues that are affecting the world?

    Peace!

    ReplyDelete